Rallies are difficult because a wide swath of people and opinions come together, and it is difficult to figure out where on the continuum people stand and where the rally as a whole will stand. I do know that this rally is being organized by good people of conscience who are Muslim, Palestinian, Jewish, Christian, and more, and I also hope for calls for peace without hate.
There is absolutely nothing antisemitic about this march. Many of the organizers are Jewish Rhode Islanders who no longer have community within organized American Jewish institutions that have put the full weight of their organizations behind disseminating genocide propaganda meant to manufacture consent for the most well documented genocide in human history. This march is about ending occupation so there can finally be peace.
I support the liberation of Palestine but claiming Israel was created to further American interests in the Middle East is. A gross exaggeration. Do not fall into the. Exaggeration camp. Make your case with actual facts
It's actually not an exaggeration at all. Israel was created to further Western interests in the region for all of the majority "white" countries, populated by people of European descent. Israel was a poison pill created by the Nazis and shoved down the throats of the Jewish people by all the white European governments that had just tried to exterminate us all. And Israel's actions are creating a rising tide of anti-Jewish hate that makes us all less safe.
America was party to the creation of the state too, so I'm not really sure why you don't want to acknowledge our involvement. We are the military force for the white Western world. We also absorbed many Nazis into our government during Operation Paperclip, so we're absolutely complicit in the creation of this situation.
I find a "march for Palestine" and its counterpart "stand with Israel" depressing. They both do no good for their cause, they throw around exaggerations and insults (e.g. "genocide," "terrorist") that makes compromise more difficult by angering the other side while encouraging their side to think they can win. But much as the appalling leadership on both sides may wish it, there is no realistic way they can actually "win" and get rid of and/or totally dominate the other in any stable way. And in the real world of unstable people, such marches lead inevitably to more anti-Jewish and Islamophobic acts.
Yet, as compromise is the only possible way to actually improve lives, there is an opportunity for a true peace movement to try to bring people together instead of further apart. It would have both Palestinian and Israeli flags, recognize the fraught narratives of both, seek reconciliation, and put forth a vision of how all the people can live in peace. With its climate, Mediterranean shoreline, wealth of historic sites, and talents of all its people, the region could thrive if they can get past the endless grievances, and all the religious and nationalist zealotry.
So, is this going to be a rally for antisemitism? How many signs with "from the river to the sea" will there be?
I hope this pro-Palestinian march is able to promote the hope for peace in the region, and promote a viable two-state solution.
Israel is guilty of many horrible crimes, unquestionably. I hope the march is about finding peace without promoting antisemitism. We'll see.
Rallies are difficult because a wide swath of people and opinions come together, and it is difficult to figure out where on the continuum people stand and where the rally as a whole will stand. I do know that this rally is being organized by good people of conscience who are Muslim, Palestinian, Jewish, Christian, and more, and I also hope for calls for peace without hate.
There is absolutely nothing antisemitic about this march. Many of the organizers are Jewish Rhode Islanders who no longer have community within organized American Jewish institutions that have put the full weight of their organizations behind disseminating genocide propaganda meant to manufacture consent for the most well documented genocide in human history. This march is about ending occupation so there can finally be peace.
I agree with the sentiment for the march, and I hope you're right.
I support the liberation of Palestine but claiming Israel was created to further American interests in the Middle East is. A gross exaggeration. Do not fall into the. Exaggeration camp. Make your case with actual facts
It's actually not an exaggeration at all. Israel was created to further Western interests in the region for all of the majority "white" countries, populated by people of European descent. Israel was a poison pill created by the Nazis and shoved down the throats of the Jewish people by all the white European governments that had just tried to exterminate us all. And Israel's actions are creating a rising tide of anti-Jewish hate that makes us all less safe.
European, not American. And yes the war makes eveyone on the world less safe.
America was party to the creation of the state too, so I'm not really sure why you don't want to acknowledge our involvement. We are the military force for the white Western world. We also absorbed many Nazis into our government during Operation Paperclip, so we're absolutely complicit in the creation of this situation.
I find a "march for Palestine" and its counterpart "stand with Israel" depressing. They both do no good for their cause, they throw around exaggerations and insults (e.g. "genocide," "terrorist") that makes compromise more difficult by angering the other side while encouraging their side to think they can win. But much as the appalling leadership on both sides may wish it, there is no realistic way they can actually "win" and get rid of and/or totally dominate the other in any stable way. And in the real world of unstable people, such marches lead inevitably to more anti-Jewish and Islamophobic acts.
Yet, as compromise is the only possible way to actually improve lives, there is an opportunity for a true peace movement to try to bring people together instead of further apart. It would have both Palestinian and Israeli flags, recognize the fraught narratives of both, seek reconciliation, and put forth a vision of how all the people can live in peace. With its climate, Mediterranean shoreline, wealth of historic sites, and talents of all its people, the region could thrive if they can get past the endless grievances, and all the religious and nationalist zealotry.